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Scientists ’See’ Ghosts ????????
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03-31-2008, 08:10 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-31-2008 08:12 PM by monte_9501.)
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I found this article I think they are all wet in thier findings, but read it for yourself and let us know your thoughts.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jh...ost121.xml Scientists "see" ghosts By Roger Highfield, Science Editor Last Updated: 7:01pm GMT 21/02/2008 The reason that apparitions, bogeymen and phantoms like to lurk in the shadows may have been revealed by scientists. A team from University College London finds that when we gaze around in a poorly-lit context, it can fool our brains into seeing things that are not really there. Although no one has done a systematic study of ghosts, neuroscientists are convinced they are "all in the mind" and, in the light of the new work, it does not seem so surprising that they seem most often glimpsed in "spooky" dimly-lit circumstances In the journal PLoS Computational Biology, Prof Li Zhaoping and her colleagues say that the context surrounding what we see is all important - sometimes overriding the evidence gathered by our eyes and even causing us to imagine things. They were surprised to find that a vague background context has more influence on what we see than one that is bright and well defined, and speculate that this might explain the power of some abstract art and why we can see vivid details in the vague brush strokes of impressionist paintings. "The paintings are vague in details, but I speculate that, perhaps because of this vagueness viewers are free to use their vivid imaginations to fill-in the details," says Prof Zhaoping, who adopts her first name as her scientific pen name - Li is such a common name it can cause an identity crisis for Chinese scientists. "Everything we see is an hallucination generated by the virtual reality machine inside our head," comments Prof Mike Morgan of The City University, London. "Normally these hallucinations are vetoed by the information coming through our senses, so we can call perception 'controlled hallucination.' "But when the input is ambiguous we can see all sorts of things, like the faces de Quincy saw in clouds and carpets. There are hundreds of faces hidden in the textured floors of the platforms at Euston Underground Station, if you look for them." To reveal the haunting power of context, 18 observers were asked by the UCL team to concentrate on the centre of a black computer screen. Every time a buzzer sounded they pressed one of two buttons to record whether or not they had just seen a small, dim, grey 'target' rectangle in the middle of the screen. It did not appear every time, but when it did appear it was displayed for just 80 milliseconds (80 one thousandths of a second). "People saw the target much more often if it appeared in the middle of a vertical line of similar looking, grey rectangles, compared to when it appeared in the middle of a pattern of bright, white rectangles. They even registered 'seeing' the target when it wasn't actually there," says Prof Zhaoping. "This is because people are mentally better prepared to see something vague when the surrounding context is also vague. It made sense for them to see it - so that's what happened. When the target didn't match the expectations set by the surrounding context, they saw it much less often. "Illusionists have been alive to this phenomenon for years,"continues Prof Zhaoping. "When you see them throw a ball into the air, followed by a second ball, and then a third ball which 'magically' disappears, you wonder how they did it. "In truth, there's often no third ball - it's just our brain being deceived by the context, telling us that we really did see three balls launched into the air, one after the other." "Contrary to what one might expect, it is a vague rather than a bright and clearly visible context that most strongly permits our beliefs to override the evidence and fill in the blanks." This could also be why monsters tend to lurk in shadows. "In shadows many things are seen vaguely (rather than clearly), thus tending to trigger the filling-in," says Prof Zhaoping. The Dark Over Lord Founder Tortured Souls Investigations (TSI paranormal Invetigations) I do believe in Spooks, I do believe in Spooks !! and check out my Sparks page at. sparkspeople.com it is for weight loss and it is free http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage.asp?id=MONTE_9501 |
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03-31-2008, 10:45 PM
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RE: Scientists ’See’ Ghosts ????????
That article was interesting and definately what a skeptic would use to argue the possibilty of paranormal activity. I agree that our eyes can play tricks with us. I have been sitting in a waiting room, etc and gazing at the linoleum or carpet patterns and seen "faces" in it. It is easy to see faces in a lot of things. I have "floaters" in both eyes so I pay little attention to most peripheral vision movement believing them to be the cause. I feel this article may be true in some cases but it isn't true in all. When I saw an apparition of leggs running across the room at the top of the stairs and thought they were the kids playing.....it was bright day light and not I was not in search of spooky stuff. I have had other experiences that defy their theroy. They can't convince me otherwise.
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04-01-2008, 03:19 PM
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RE: Scientists ’See’ Ghosts ????????
There is a lot of truth to the study, unfortunately they can not explain the stuff on video or digital recorders. Most sightings do occur in dim areas and to the edge of our periphery. Due to most of our rods and cones in our eyes being toward the center of the focal plane, as we move out to the periphery, we lose detail in our sight. This causes our brain to replace what we see with what our brain believes we should be seeing. This explains approximately 80% of mistaken shadows, what is cool is the other 20%. That is the stuff these scientists can not explain.
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04-01-2008, 09:08 PM
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RE: Scientists ’See’ Ghosts ????????
I agree, our eyes play tricks on us and we see things that aren't there.
I used to see things moving in my closet when I was younger. it used to terrify me to the point I would tie the closet doors closed and place heavy items in front of them so they couldn't open. One night I went to sleep and forgot to tie the doors, when I woke up in the middle of the night I started to scream because the closet doors were wide open and they were not that way when I went to sleep. So I started to scream my mother came into the room to see what had got me so upset, when see seen the closet she had no idea why the doors were open she had seen them closed when I went to sleep. whenI got up the next morning I found my brother luaghing at me, he was the one who had snuck into my room and opened my closet doors. I swear i could see monsters moving around in my walk in closet. To the day I will not sleep in a room with the closet doors open. The Dark Over Lord Founder Tortured Souls Investigations (TSI paranormal Invetigations) I do believe in Spooks, I do believe in Spooks !! and check out my Sparks page at. sparkspeople.com it is for weight loss and it is free http://www.sparkpeople.com/mypage.asp?id=MONTE_9501 |
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04-01-2008, 10:01 PM
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RE: Scientists ’See’ Ghosts ????????
Me neither. I hate my closet open. Your bro must have been a little monster.
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04-01-2008, 10:17 PM
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RE: Scientists ’See’ Ghosts ????????
yeah they conveniently left out any mention of video evidence and speaking of closets Its reminding me of that movie monster in the closet it scared me senseless when I was little but its just funny now
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